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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laurie -- yes, I think we&#039;ve all got the potential to be mentors in different areas. Often we don&#039;t realise how much we know until circumstances -- or someone else&#039;s need -- draw it out of us.

Mark -- I think you&#039;re right that &quot;one of the hidden values of the mentor is the ability to observe business and political cycles over time to see patterns that emerge over the long run, patterns which might be invisible when we’re in the throes of change&quot;. Yes, the rules of engagement are changing day-to-day -- but a good mentor will remind us of timeless values and principles.

Dwayne -- thanks for sharing, it sounds like Jerry&#039;s done a great job for you, great to hear he&#039;s been so inspirational.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laurie &#8212; yes, I think we&#8217;ve all got the potential to be mentors in different areas. Often we don&#8217;t realise how much we know until circumstances &#8212; or someone else&#8217;s need &#8212; draw it out of us.</p>
<p>Mark &#8212; I think you&#8217;re right that &#8220;one of the hidden values of the mentor is the ability to observe business and political cycles over time to see patterns that emerge over the long run, patterns which might be invisible when we’re in the throes of change&#8221;. Yes, the rules of engagement are changing day-to-day &#8212; but a good mentor will remind us of timeless values and principles.</p>
<p>Dwayne &#8212; thanks for sharing, it sounds like Jerry&#8217;s done a great job for you, great to hear he&#8217;s been so inspirational.</p>
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		<title>By: Dwayne Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dwayne Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 18:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I count Gerald M. &quot;Jerry&quot; Weinberg as one of my main mentors. I attended a couple of his week-long seminars. I then attended a week-long writer&#039;s workshop. Several books came out of that workshop. Jerry gets a big kick out of seeing people he works with publish books. The biggest thing I learned from Jerry is the &quot;Fieldstone Method&quot; of collecting ideas that he later put into a book (http://www.amazon.com/Weinberg-Writing-Fieldstone-Gerald-M/dp/093263365X).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I count Gerald M. &#8220;Jerry&#8221; Weinberg as one of my main mentors. I attended a couple of his week-long seminars. I then attended a week-long writer&#8217;s workshop. Several books came out of that workshop. Jerry gets a big kick out of seeing people he works with publish books. The biggest thing I learned from Jerry is the &#8220;Fieldstone Method&#8221; of collecting ideas that he later put into a book (<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Weinberg-Writing-Fieldstone-Gerald-M/dp/093263365X)." rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Weinberg-Writing-Fieldstone-Gerald-M/dp/093263365X).</a></p>
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		<title>By: Can You Perform? Prove It :: How To Learn In-Demand IT Skills, Gain Hands-On IT Experience Or Get An IT Job</title>
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		<dc:creator>Can You Perform? Prove It :: How To Learn In-Demand IT Skills, Gain Hands-On IT Experience Or Get An IT Job</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 22:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mark Dykeman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Dykeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 15:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The concept of mentoring certainly seems to be akin to the classic &quot;Master-Apprentice&quot; relationships in many of the trades (and of the Jedi, of course!)

I suspect (and also believe, based on my own personal experience) that Gen Xers may not be as open to mentors as previous generations, because we have this streak of independence and a lack of trust in authority figures.  Our loss, perhaps.  At the same time, though, when the world seems to constantly reinvent itself around you each year, how can a mentor help when the rules are being rewritten?  That&#039;s not to say that mentors are useless, but it does make me wonder if one of the hidden values of the mentor is the ability to observe business and political cycles over time to see patterns that emerge over the long run, patterns which might be invisible when we&#039;re in the throes of change.  Food for thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The concept of mentoring certainly seems to be akin to the classic &#8220;Master-Apprentice&#8221; relationships in many of the trades (and of the Jedi, of course!)</p>
<p>I suspect (and also believe, based on my own personal experience) that Gen Xers may not be as open to mentors as previous generations, because we have this streak of independence and a lack of trust in authority figures.  Our loss, perhaps.  At the same time, though, when the world seems to constantly reinvent itself around you each year, how can a mentor help when the rules are being rewritten?  That&#8217;s not to say that mentors are useless, but it does make me wonder if one of the hidden values of the mentor is the ability to observe business and political cycles over time to see patterns that emerge over the long run, patterns which might be invisible when we&#8217;re in the throes of change.  Food for thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurie &#124; Express Yourself to Success</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurie &#124; Express Yourself to Success</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 14:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article - thanks.

I&#039;d like to think we can all be mentors. Perhaps not THE mentor, but we all have something we can give to someone else. Maybe it&#039;ll last only at one meeting, for one month, or on and off for a number of years. If we share our knowledge and experience regularly we&#039;ll all improve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article &#8211; thanks.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to think we can all be mentors. Perhaps not THE mentor, but we all have something we can give to someone else. Maybe it&#8217;ll last only at one meeting, for one month, or on and off for a number of years. If we share our knowledge and experience regularly we&#8217;ll all improve.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 08:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jeff -- &lt;blockquote&gt;I feel like, sometimes, you can read the same phrase 1000 times, but one person you trust saying “No really, it works” pushes you from understanding it to acting on it. &lt;/blockquote&gt; which is why trusted refers are more important than ever, particularly with the information overload on the Internet these days.

@Jean -- I hadn&#039;t read David Brooks before (NYT is slighly off-radar for me in London), I&#039;ll check out some of his other stuff. Thanks for the trusted recommendation. :-)

@Kingsley @Maryanne -- Exactly. For real achievement &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wishfulthinking.co.uk/2008/11/03/motivating-creative-people-the-joy-of-work/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;intrinsic motivations &lt;/a&gt;are as important as the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wishfulthinking.co.uk/2008/11/10/rewards-for-work/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;extrinsic ones&lt;/a&gt;.  

@Kingsley -- I&#039;d be interested to hear what you think of the books you ordered. I&#039;ve skimmed &lt;em&gt;Talent Is Overrated &lt;/em&gt;and it looked pretty good.

@Sunny -- Nice nautical metaphor!

@Gabriel -- &lt;blockquote&gt;It is very much a “fend for yourself” culture. I think that, more than anything else, is what leads to such high rates of burn out in the industry.

Apprenticeships were designed to provide the mentor experience in a wide range of professions, but nowadays it seems to be a holdover from an older time and no longer respected as it once was. In many cases this leads to inferior skill sets, poor quality output and frustration for those trying to excel in their craft.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think what you&#039;re describing is the flipside of the brave new world that technology has given us. I&#039;m not an IT expert, and I can maybe understand the mindset that IT is always so new that past knowledge is no guide to future success -- but even in IT, there must be plenty of principles about how you approach your work, technically and professionally, that are worthy of learning and handing down.

@Kare -- Glad you like the stories, I&#039;ll have to check out Gladwell&#039;s basketball story, sounds like a good one. &quot;success can be because of Effort rather than Talent&quot; -- that seems to be the argument of &lt;em&gt;Talent Is Overrated &lt;/em&gt;-- of course, it has to be the right kind of effort ...

@Duff &quot;those young, talented people who are bound for success will naturally seek out and be sought out by mentors in the field.&quot; Good point about the mentors doing the seeking as well -- the really good mentors won&#039;t waste their time on all and sundry, they&#039;ll want to see some potential and (maybe more importantly) commitment on the part of the mentee (horrible word, can&#039;t think of a better one though).


@River - &quot;To me, this post was just a way of recycling past content (Marla’s animated video).&quot; Actually the Marla link was the last thing that occurred to me when I wrote the post.

&quot;Sharing is nice, but what’s the payoff?&quot; I&#039;m sorry we&#039;re giving away too much for your liking. But as you&#039;ve been reading long enough to remember the original Marla video, I guess we must be doing something right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jeff &#8212;<br />
<blockquote>I feel like, sometimes, you can read the same phrase 1000 times, but one person you trust saying “No really, it works” pushes you from understanding it to acting on it. </p></blockquote>
<p> which is why trusted refers are more important than ever, particularly with the information overload on the Internet these days.</p>
<p>@Jean &#8212; I hadn&#8217;t read David Brooks before (NYT is slighly off-radar for me in London), I&#8217;ll check out some of his other stuff. Thanks for the trusted recommendation. <img src='http://lateralaction.com/base/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Kingsley @Maryanne &#8212; Exactly. For real achievement <a href="http://www.wishfulthinking.co.uk/2008/11/03/motivating-creative-people-the-joy-of-work/" rel="nofollow">intrinsic motivations </a>are as important as the <a href="http://www.wishfulthinking.co.uk/2008/11/10/rewards-for-work/" rel="nofollow">extrinsic ones</a>.  </p>
<p>@Kingsley &#8212; I&#8217;d be interested to hear what you think of the books you ordered. I&#8217;ve skimmed <em>Talent Is Overrated </em>and it looked pretty good.</p>
<p>@Sunny &#8212; Nice nautical metaphor!</p>
<p>@Gabriel &#8212;<br />
<blockquote>It is very much a “fend for yourself” culture. I think that, more than anything else, is what leads to such high rates of burn out in the industry.</p>
<p>Apprenticeships were designed to provide the mentor experience in a wide range of professions, but nowadays it seems to be a holdover from an older time and no longer respected as it once was. In many cases this leads to inferior skill sets, poor quality output and frustration for those trying to excel in their craft.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think what you&#8217;re describing is the flipside of the brave new world that technology has given us. I&#8217;m not an IT expert, and I can maybe understand the mindset that IT is always so new that past knowledge is no guide to future success &#8212; but even in IT, there must be plenty of principles about how you approach your work, technically and professionally, that are worthy of learning and handing down.</p>
<p>@Kare &#8212; Glad you like the stories, I&#8217;ll have to check out Gladwell&#8217;s basketball story, sounds like a good one. &#8220;success can be because of Effort rather than Talent&#8221; &#8212; that seems to be the argument of <em>Talent Is Overrated </em>&#8211; of course, it has to be the right kind of effort &#8230;</p>
<p>@Duff &#8220;those young, talented people who are bound for success will naturally seek out and be sought out by mentors in the field.&#8221; Good point about the mentors doing the seeking as well &#8212; the really good mentors won&#8217;t waste their time on all and sundry, they&#8217;ll want to see some potential and (maybe more importantly) commitment on the part of the mentee (horrible word, can&#8217;t think of a better one though).</p>
<p>@River &#8211; &#8220;To me, this post was just a way of recycling past content (Marla’s animated video).&#8221; Actually the Marla link was the last thing that occurred to me when I wrote the post.</p>
<p>&#8220;Sharing is nice, but what’s the payoff?&#8221; I&#8217;m sorry we&#8217;re giving away too much for your liking. But as you&#8217;ve been reading long enough to remember the original Marla video, I guess we must be doing something right.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 02:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>River, I&#039;m sure your opinions about the web are to be cherished. Why, taking a look at your site I... oh wait.

My guess is that we know what we&#039;re doing with this blog (what with a demonstrated track record and all, compared to your nonexistent web presence). And at minimum, hopefully where we&#039;re going is somewhere you&#039;re not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>River, I&#8217;m sure your opinions about the web are to be cherished. Why, taking a look at your site I&#8230; oh wait.</p>
<p>My guess is that we know what we&#8217;re doing with this blog (what with a demonstrated track record and all, compared to your nonexistent web presence). And at minimum, hopefully where we&#8217;re going is somewhere you&#8217;re not.</p>
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		<title>By: River</title>
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		<dc:creator>River</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 02:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blah Blah Blah - seriously out of touch with what&#039;s actually happening in the real world, as well as on the Internet.

View the Keynote speech video from the BIGOmaha convention at http://vimeo.com/4671951 to get a sense of what creativity really means for the future of the web. 

To me, this post was just a way of recycling past content (Marla&#039;s animated video). 

I know you won&#039;t vett this message to be posted, but I just had to pitch in my admittedly $0.02 cents&#039; (or less) worth. 

What are you doing? Where are you going with this blog? Sharing is nice, but what&#039;s the payoff?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blah Blah Blah &#8211; seriously out of touch with what&#8217;s actually happening in the real world, as well as on the Internet.</p>
<p>View the Keynote speech video from the BIGOmaha convention at <a href="http://vimeo.com/4671951" rel="nofollow">http://vimeo.com/4671951</a> to get a sense of what creativity really means for the future of the web. </p>
<p>To me, this post was just a way of recycling past content (Marla&#8217;s animated video). </p>
<p>I know you won&#8217;t vett this message to be posted, but I just had to pitch in my admittedly $0.02 cents&#8217; (or less) worth. </p>
<p>What are you doing? Where are you going with this blog? Sharing is nice, but what&#8217;s the payoff?</p>
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		<title>By: Duff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 22:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have read the Iliad, but never realized that&#039;s where the word &quot;mentor&quot; originated. Thanks for connecting the dots for me!

I forget where I read this, but somewhere I read a debate as to whether finding a mentor is critical to success.

The conventional position is yes, having a mentor can dramatically increase your success in your chosen field. The antithesis is that those young, talented people who are bound for success will naturally seek out and be sought out by mentors in the field.

The paradoxes of creativity continue!

~Duff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read the Iliad, but never realized that&#8217;s where the word &#8220;mentor&#8221; originated. Thanks for connecting the dots for me!</p>
<p>I forget where I read this, but somewhere I read a debate as to whether finding a mentor is critical to success.</p>
<p>The conventional position is yes, having a mentor can dramatically increase your success in your chosen field. The antithesis is that those young, talented people who are bound for success will naturally seek out and be sought out by mentors in the field.</p>
<p>The paradoxes of creativity continue!</p>
<p>~Duff</p>
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		<title>By: Kingsley Tagbo - IT Career Coach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kingsley Tagbo - IT Career Coach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 21:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just ordered the books referred to in this article and I am looking forward to learning more about how excellence is achieved</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just ordered the books referred to in this article and I am looking forward to learning more about how excellence is achieved</p>
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