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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 09:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks everyone, I can see we&#039;re not going to resolve this one any time soon! :-)

Tom -- You&#039;ve said it publicly now, you&#039;d better keep your word! ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks everyone, I can see we&#8217;re not going to resolve this one any time soon! <img src='http://lateralaction.com/base/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Tom &#8212; You&#8217;ve said it publicly now, you&#8217;d better keep your word! <img src='http://lateralaction.com/base/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tom @ Wagefreedom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom @ Wagefreedom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 18:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I promise: when the division in my life between the pursuit of art-creation and the &#039;money-making gig&#039; is one day not as harsh as it is for me now, that I won&#039;t complain. I promise! I promise! Now make it stop!!
Thanks for the post -- this is a book I&#039;ll look out for...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I promise: when the division in my life between the pursuit of art-creation and the &#8216;money-making gig&#8217; is one day not as harsh as it is for me now, that I won&#8217;t complain. I promise! I promise! Now make it stop!!<br />
Thanks for the post &#8212; this is a book I&#8217;ll look out for&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Christian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me it&#039;s largely a myth that movie stars and rock stars do not have this to deal with, which is why it&#039;s so cool you mention John Travolta. I know famous people, and they have the same issues...we just don&#039;t want to believe it; we want to believe money and fame fixes everything. It doesn&#039;t. I know rich people who are far from famous but who have tons of money...same deal. Wealth and fame, if anything, exacerbate some problems more than help.  Creativity is a worthwhile burden, but it&#039;s still a burden.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me it&#8217;s largely a myth that movie stars and rock stars do not have this to deal with, which is why it&#8217;s so cool you mention John Travolta. I know famous people, and they have the same issues&#8230;we just don&#8217;t want to believe it; we want to believe money and fame fixes everything. It doesn&#8217;t. I know rich people who are far from famous but who have tons of money&#8230;same deal. Wealth and fame, if anything, exacerbate some problems more than help.  Creativity is a worthwhile burden, but it&#8217;s still a burden.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Ball</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Ball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 12:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The trick is not to view work as either exclusively sex or exclusively cash. While there are some jobs that really are (or quickly become) about paying the bills – the real challenge is to find some tiny part of even those ones that can be about the sex. And strangely enough, by doing so, you tend to make more cash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The trick is not to view work as either exclusively sex or exclusively cash. While there are some jobs that really are (or quickly become) about paying the bills – the real challenge is to find some tiny part of even those ones that can be about the sex. And strangely enough, by doing so, you tend to make more cash.</p>
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		<title>By: Zoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hm, well if Hugh&#039;s book does well (which is nearly a given!), he might just transcend his own rule. That is, of course, assuming that writing a book is sexy :).

I&#039;d say that yes, the rule is true for many people, but it doesn&#039;t apply to the significant number of creative people who are famous for their work -- and get paid big money for it. 

This post is great timing for me. I just wrote about getting paid for your passion on my blog, and whether there *should* be a separation (i.e., making your passion your job can make you less passionate about it), or if we should take any chance we can get to make a career of our passion.

After thinking about it and reading the insightful comments, I realized that the main distinction is between finding a way to &quot;monetize&quot; your passion, and becoming successful for the passionate work you&#039;re doing. The former is riskier, because you may end up making money as a freelance writer, but you really wish you were writing fiction. The latter is ideal -- but alas, also the toughest to attain!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm, well if Hugh&#8217;s book does well (which is nearly a given!), he might just transcend his own rule. That is, of course, assuming that writing a book is sexy <img src='http://lateralaction.com/base/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say that yes, the rule is true for many people, but it doesn&#8217;t apply to the significant number of creative people who are famous for their work &#8212; and get paid big money for it. </p>
<p>This post is great timing for me. I just wrote about getting paid for your passion on my blog, and whether there *should* be a separation (i.e., making your passion your job can make you less passionate about it), or if we should take any chance we can get to make a career of our passion.</p>
<p>After thinking about it and reading the insightful comments, I realized that the main distinction is between finding a way to &#8220;monetize&#8221; your passion, and becoming successful for the passionate work you&#8217;re doing. The former is riskier, because you may end up making money as a freelance writer, but you really wish you were writing fiction. The latter is ideal &#8212; but alas, also the toughest to attain!</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen - Rat Race Trap</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen - Rat Race Trap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure.  Maybe for some people.  I&#039;m in that position right - sex AND cash.  There are people who are all sex though.  Maybe not a lot but I know some.  My gut is that a lot more of us could be there and the new interconnected world will enable that even more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure.  Maybe for some people.  I&#8217;m in that position right &#8211; sex AND cash.  There are people who are all sex though.  Maybe not a lot but I know some.  My gut is that a lot more of us could be there and the new interconnected world will enable that even more.</p>
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		<title>By: John Yeo</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Yeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The forces to crush creativity is so real- internal and external elements something simply make my creative ideas that I am so passionate about becomes a shitty job- indeed a shitty idea sucks.

None-the-less, I derive more gratification from the self-actualisation of creating my creative shit- despite what they might say. Yet, the compromise often would be, does it pay?  A dilemma I frequently face is- what sells, and does that betray my soul...

A creative sexy spirit
john yeo
singapore</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The forces to crush creativity is so real- internal and external elements something simply make my creative ideas that I am so passionate about becomes a shitty job- indeed a shitty idea sucks.</p>
<p>None-the-less, I derive more gratification from the self-actualisation of creating my creative shit- despite what they might say. Yet, the compromise often would be, does it pay?  A dilemma I frequently face is- what sells, and does that betray my soul&#8230;</p>
<p>A creative sexy spirit<br />
john yeo<br />
singapore</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Bray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah Bray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think web design IS sexy. Guess it&#039;s all in where you&#039;re coming from.

I&#039;m doing The Artist&#039;s Way right now, and it completely teaches the opposite. Haven&#039;t gotten to the practical part of &quot;how&quot; yet...that will be interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think web design IS sexy. Guess it&#8217;s all in where you&#8217;re coming from.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m doing The Artist&#8217;s Way right now, and it completely teaches the opposite. Haven&#8217;t gotten to the practical part of &#8220;how&#8221; yet&#8230;that will be interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: JR Moreau</title>
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		<dc:creator>JR Moreau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoy the struggle. I truly believe that the duality will be transcended eventually if I have full time control over what I do. Even if I&#039;m not working on sustainable technology or corporate social responsibility, if I&#039;m writing all the time for a living, I consider the duality at least met or partially transcended.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoy the struggle. I truly believe that the duality will be transcended eventually if I have full time control over what I do. Even if I&#8217;m not working on sustainable technology or corporate social responsibility, if I&#8217;m writing all the time for a living, I consider the duality at least met or partially transcended.</p>
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		<title>By: James &#124; Dancing Geek</title>
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		<dc:creator>James &#124; Dancing Geek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that the duality exists, but I don&#039;t believe that it has to be necessary.  There&#039;s a lot of mindset involved.

How much money do you really need to live comfortably (we&#039;re not talking starving artist here)?  Are you willing to leverage the work that you love to make money out of it?

Yes, there has to be a market that you can reach (for starters), but to see it as a permanent either/or situation blinds you to the opportunities to have both.

For some people, there is little or no social value in what they want to do for the people they can currently provide it to.  So no money to be made.  Can they find new people? Move? Expand? Reframe their work? Or can they find something else that will pay the bills that isn&#039;t too difficult and doesn&#039;t require all their energy?  And are they ok with that?

It&#039;s a continuum, from someone who earns all they need from what they love, to someone who earns nothing.  And every point on that line plays an important part in allowing people to share what they have with others.  No one place is ideal, except for the place that feels right to you.  And that can change.

Life is too complex for black and white.

Catherine&#039;s comment also got me thinking about career fields.  What is &#039;sexy&#039; to one person is not for another (as Catherine said).  So people who are lucky enough to find something that generally pays well as sexy (e.g. being a CEO, stock markets - though they are not guarantees of wealth) can find it easier to do sexy, well paid work.  Those who find work with lower demand or fewer tangible profits sexy will find it more difficult to get paid well for their sexy work.  That just means the latter need to work harder on marketing their social value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that the duality exists, but I don&#8217;t believe that it has to be necessary.  There&#8217;s a lot of mindset involved.</p>
<p>How much money do you really need to live comfortably (we&#8217;re not talking starving artist here)?  Are you willing to leverage the work that you love to make money out of it?</p>
<p>Yes, there has to be a market that you can reach (for starters), but to see it as a permanent either/or situation blinds you to the opportunities to have both.</p>
<p>For some people, there is little or no social value in what they want to do for the people they can currently provide it to.  So no money to be made.  Can they find new people? Move? Expand? Reframe their work? Or can they find something else that will pay the bills that isn&#8217;t too difficult and doesn&#8217;t require all their energy?  And are they ok with that?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a continuum, from someone who earns all they need from what they love, to someone who earns nothing.  And every point on that line plays an important part in allowing people to share what they have with others.  No one place is ideal, except for the place that feels right to you.  And that can change.</p>
<p>Life is too complex for black and white.</p>
<p>Catherine&#8217;s comment also got me thinking about career fields.  What is &#8217;sexy&#8217; to one person is not for another (as Catherine said).  So people who are lucky enough to find something that generally pays well as sexy (e.g. being a CEO, stock markets &#8211; though they are not guarantees of wealth) can find it easier to do sexy, well paid work.  Those who find work with lower demand or fewer tangible profits sexy will find it more difficult to get paid well for their sexy work.  That just means the latter need to work harder on marketing their social value.</p>
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