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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 19:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Michael - Thanks! We&#039;re interested in how creativity really happens, so it makes sense to use real-life case studies. Plus it&#039;s a great excuse for me to write about my creative heroes. :-)

&lt;blockquote&gt;What I found interesting is that the Business people were open to the idea and willing to create opportunities for the artists but the artists were very uncompromising.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sadly, I can easily believe this is true. I find it amazing how many so-called &#039;creative people&#039; have very conventional ideas about what&#039;s acceptable and what isn&#039;t.

Great post on your blog - &quot;Business is Life and Life is Business&quot;. Nicely put.

@ Violet - Glad you liked it, did you see these pieces about creativity and routine? &lt;a href=&quot;http://lateralaction.com/articles/daily-routines-famous-creative-people/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Daily Routines of Famous Creative People&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://lateralaction.com/articles/ritual-or-routine/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Creative Ritual or Mundane Routine?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Michael &#8211; Thanks! We&#8217;re interested in how creativity really happens, so it makes sense to use real-life case studies. Plus it&#8217;s a great excuse for me to write about my creative heroes. <img src='http://lateralaction.com/base/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<blockquote><p>What I found interesting is that the Business people were open to the idea and willing to create opportunities for the artists but the artists were very uncompromising.</p></blockquote>
<p>Sadly, I can easily believe this is true. I find it amazing how many so-called &#8216;creative people&#8217; have very conventional ideas about what&#8217;s acceptable and what isn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Great post on your blog &#8211; &#8220;Business is Life and Life is Business&#8221;. Nicely put.</p>
<p>@ Violet &#8211; Glad you liked it, did you see these pieces about creativity and routine? <a href="http://lateralaction.com/articles/daily-routines-famous-creative-people/" rel="nofollow">Daily Routines of Famous Creative People</a> and <a href="http://lateralaction.com/articles/ritual-or-routine/" rel="nofollow">Creative Ritual or Mundane Routine?</a></p>
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		<title>By: Links for August 30, 2009 &#124; Eric D. Brown - Technology, Strategy, People, Projects</title>
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		<dc:creator>Links for August 30, 2009 &#124; Eric D. Brown - Technology, Strategy, People, Projects</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 12:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The T.S. Eliot Guide to Success by Mark McGuinness on Lateral Action [...]</description>
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		<title>By: o t h e r t i m e &#187; Blog Archive &#187; what am i doing?</title>
		<link>http://lateralaction.com/articles/eliot-success/comment-page-1/#comment-3821</link>
		<dc:creator>o t h e r t i m e &#187; Blog Archive &#187; what am i doing?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 22:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I have also been spending a lot of time analyzing how I do my creative work in the midst of my fulltime job and other assorted responsibilities. When thinking about living a dual existence, I often go back to Charles Ives. He&#8217;s certainly a hero of mine compositionally but he also gives me an idea of what one can do creatively while living a 9 to 5 (or 9 to 9) life. Another one to add to that list is T.S. Eliot. I&#8217;m a fan of his writing but I never really knew anything about the man. There was a post at Lateral Action about Eliot and how he managed to be as successful as he was while being a banker during the day and a poet at night. His wasn&#8217;t a lifestyle I would emulate, but he&#8217;s an inspirational character to be sure. Check out the article here: The T.S. Eliot Guide to Success. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I have also been spending a lot of time analyzing how I do my creative work in the midst of my fulltime job and other assorted responsibilities. When thinking about living a dual existence, I often go back to Charles Ives. He&#8217;s certainly a hero of mine compositionally but he also gives me an idea of what one can do creatively while living a 9 to 5 (or 9 to 9) life. Another one to add to that list is T.S. Eliot. I&#8217;m a fan of his writing but I never really knew anything about the man. There was a post at Lateral Action about Eliot and how he managed to be as successful as he was while being a banker during the day and a poet at night. His wasn&#8217;t a lifestyle I would emulate, but he&#8217;s an inspirational character to be sure. Check out the article here: The T.S. Eliot Guide to Success. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: violet</title>
		<link>http://lateralaction.com/articles/eliot-success/comment-page-1/#comment-3815</link>
		<dc:creator>violet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 19:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love your articles, Mark - and this one is another winner! I too write some poetry and thrive on routine... not that it makes me more creative. I especially like the take-away you suggest with each point. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love your articles, Mark &#8211; and this one is another winner! I too write some poetry and thrive on routine&#8230; not that it makes me more creative. I especially like the take-away you suggest with each point. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Grills</title>
		<link>http://lateralaction.com/articles/eliot-success/comment-page-1/#comment-3814</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Grills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Article as usual.

Your profiles add legitimacy to your ideas. This is one of the best blogs on the net.

The never compromise area is a place where I have struggled a long time. Just recently I was told to lower my standards of quality as it was narrowing the margins on our business.

It&#039;s caused me to once again want to push further away from other peoples visions and push my own.

I also recently was asked to be a part of an organization of artists that would try to bridge the gap between business and arts. What I found interesting is that the Business people were open to the idea and willing to create opportunities for the artists but the artists were very uncompromising.

They felt that the business people should enter the art spaces and that bringing art into the business spaces was somehow &quot;wrong.&quot; As mentioned by Adam &quot;selling out&quot;

I sort of did a similar post about myself as I try to make this art/business/life thing work. 

http://arthub.ca/343/ignore-everybody/

Still working on my writing but I thought it relevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Article as usual.</p>
<p>Your profiles add legitimacy to your ideas. This is one of the best blogs on the net.</p>
<p>The never compromise area is a place where I have struggled a long time. Just recently I was told to lower my standards of quality as it was narrowing the margins on our business.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s caused me to once again want to push further away from other peoples visions and push my own.</p>
<p>I also recently was asked to be a part of an organization of artists that would try to bridge the gap between business and arts. What I found interesting is that the Business people were open to the idea and willing to create opportunities for the artists but the artists were very uncompromising.</p>
<p>They felt that the business people should enter the art spaces and that bringing art into the business spaces was somehow &#8220;wrong.&#8221; As mentioned by Adam &#8220;selling out&#8221;</p>
<p>I sort of did a similar post about myself as I try to make this art/business/life thing work. </p>
<p><a href="http://arthub.ca/343/ignore-everybody/" rel="nofollow">http://arthub.ca/343/ignore-everybody/</a></p>
<p>Still working on my writing but I thought it relevant.</p>
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		<title>By: Creati[ve]on &#171; Creati[ve]on &#8211; Disrupti[ve]on &#8211; Collaborati[ve]on</title>
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		<dc:creator>Creati[ve]on &#171; Creati[ve]on &#8211; Disrupti[ve]on &#8211; Collaborati[ve]on</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 12:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] put before sleep [or exhaustion] finally takes over you. I read an interesting article yesterday on T.S Eliot and his drive to get things done &#8211; before and after his [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] put before sleep [or exhaustion] finally takes over you. I read an interesting article yesterday on T.S Eliot and his drive to get things done &#8211; before and after his [...]</p>
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		<title>By: T.S. Eliot and the Business of Poetry</title>
		<link>http://lateralaction.com/articles/eliot-success/comment-page-1/#comment-3806</link>
		<dc:creator>T.S. Eliot and the Business of Poetry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 21:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;ve just written a piece for Lateral Action, one of my other blogs, about T.S. Eliot&#8217;s route to fame, inspired by the excellent Ackroyd biography. The T.S. Eliot Guide to Success [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;ve just written a piece for Lateral Action, one of my other blogs, about T.S. Eliot&#8217;s route to fame, inspired by the excellent Ackroyd biography. The T.S. Eliot Guide to Success [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://lateralaction.com/articles/eliot-success/comment-page-1/#comment-3804</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 15:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ ad - You might like to check out http://meshminds.co.uk/ a social network for business professionals who have creative interests on the side. Based in the UK but I believe they have international members too.

@ David - Excellent points. Yes Pound was a superb poet in his own right and a great collaborator for Eliot. If we compare The Waste Land to Bowie&#039;s Low/Heroes albums (bear with me on this) then Pound was the Eno to Eliot&#039;s Bowie - he didn&#039;t have his name on the cover, but his contribution was vital to the finished result. 

Re being trendy - you&#039;ve reminded me I was going to have a section called &#039;Be in the Right Place at the Right Time&#039;. I might edit that in...

@ Adam - Yes, in some ways Eliot was ahead of his time. Or you could compare him to &lt;a href=&quot;http://lateralaction.com/articles/shakespeare-entrepreneurship/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Shakespeare&lt;/a&gt;, a poet-entrepreneur. Is it a coincidence that two of the greatest poets in English were also successful businessmen? I think we should be told. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ ad &#8211; You might like to check out <a href="http://meshminds.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">http://meshminds.co.uk/</a> a social network for business professionals who have creative interests on the side. Based in the UK but I believe they have international members too.</p>
<p>@ David &#8211; Excellent points. Yes Pound was a superb poet in his own right and a great collaborator for Eliot. If we compare The Waste Land to Bowie&#8217;s Low/Heroes albums (bear with me on this) then Pound was the Eno to Eliot&#8217;s Bowie &#8211; he didn&#8217;t have his name on the cover, but his contribution was vital to the finished result. </p>
<p>Re being trendy &#8211; you&#8217;ve reminded me I was going to have a section called &#8216;Be in the Right Place at the Right Time&#8217;. I might edit that in&#8230;</p>
<p>@ Adam &#8211; Yes, in some ways Eliot was ahead of his time. Or you could compare him to <a href="http://lateralaction.com/articles/shakespeare-entrepreneurship/" rel="nofollow">Shakespeare</a>, a poet-entrepreneur. Is it a coincidence that two of the greatest poets in English were also successful businessmen? I think we should be told. <img src='http://lateralaction.com/base/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Adam Di Stefano</title>
		<link>http://lateralaction.com/articles/eliot-success/comment-page-1/#comment-3803</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Di Stefano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 14:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another great profile that inspires and educates.  Great job, Mark.  

As far as I&#039;m concerned, we&#039;ll never hear enough stories about people who didn&#039;t think art and business were mutually exclusive.  In the 60+ years since Eliot was writing, we have not come very far when it comes to thinking that artists who pursue business are &quot;selling out.&quot;

Thanks for the post, Mark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another great profile that inspires and educates.  Great job, Mark.  </p>
<p>As far as I&#8217;m concerned, we&#8217;ll never hear enough stories about people who didn&#8217;t think art and business were mutually exclusive.  In the 60+ years since Eliot was writing, we have not come very far when it comes to thinking that artists who pursue business are &#8220;selling out.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks for the post, Mark.</p>
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		<title>By: David Merriman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Merriman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 14:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An English major&#039;s take:

- Ezra Pound&#039;s influence cannot be stated enough. Pound not only published and championed Eliot&#039;s work, he also HEAVILY edited The Waste Land -- the poem which would make Eliot a household name.

- Eliot was successful because he was TRENDY. Of course, he was a brilliant poet. But so was Elisabeth Bishop, who will forever remain a &quot;poet&#039;s poet&quot;.

The Modernist style -- with its obscure allusions, with its difficulty, with its emphasis on the importance of the text itself, rather than the importance of anything else -- like all trends in literature has passed.

The best business lesson we can learn from Eliot is to jump on the bandwagon at the best possible time, and then have the skill to LEAD that bandwagon. 

Eliot didn&#039;t invent Modernism, he didn&#039;t have to, but he was more than comfortable assuming the role of leading it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An English major&#8217;s take:</p>
<p>- Ezra Pound&#8217;s influence cannot be stated enough. Pound not only published and championed Eliot&#8217;s work, he also HEAVILY edited The Waste Land &#8212; the poem which would make Eliot a household name.</p>
<p>- Eliot was successful because he was TRENDY. Of course, he was a brilliant poet. But so was Elisabeth Bishop, who will forever remain a &#8220;poet&#8217;s poet&#8221;.</p>
<p>The Modernist style &#8212; with its obscure allusions, with its difficulty, with its emphasis on the importance of the text itself, rather than the importance of anything else &#8212; like all trends in literature has passed.</p>
<p>The best business lesson we can learn from Eliot is to jump on the bandwagon at the best possible time, and then have the skill to LEAD that bandwagon. </p>
<p>Eliot didn&#8217;t invent Modernism, he didn&#8217;t have to, but he was more than comfortable assuming the role of leading it.</p>
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