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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://lateralaction.com/articles/climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-4364</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Finola. Afraid it&#039;s more than my job&#039;s worth to vouch for the UK recycling industry though!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Finola. Afraid it&#8217;s more than my job&#8217;s worth to vouch for the UK recycling industry though!</p>
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		<title>By: Finola Prescott</title>
		<link>http://lateralaction.com/articles/climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-4362</link>
		<dc:creator>Finola Prescott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just getting to read this post - I agree so much; I&#039;m terrible for not wanting to do things when I&#039;m told I have to, that I&#039;m wrong, an awful person if I don&#039;t, etc.

I wrote a kinda tongue in cheek post for this BAD - because I do get frustrated with all the scientific data that&#039;s thrown at us and all the demands for us to fix what others have done (yes, I know, it&#039;s not just others, me too). 

I find that I can usually persuade myself at least and others occasionally, by bringing it right home; how can you lose by cleaning up your own backyard? We may not have a definitive answer for what is really going to happen and why, or what we can do to prevent it, but we can easily recognize that it can&#039;t hurt us to do a little garbage separation, re-use a few things, make some compost.

I must say though that some of my English friends passed on the shocking revelation that in the UK people&#039;s efforts at recycling often end up dumped anyway in dumps or foreign countries - too much to handle for the recyclers? Say it ain&#039;t so!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just getting to read this post &#8211; I agree so much; I&#8217;m terrible for not wanting to do things when I&#8217;m told I have to, that I&#8217;m wrong, an awful person if I don&#8217;t, etc.</p>
<p>I wrote a kinda tongue in cheek post for this BAD &#8211; because I do get frustrated with all the scientific data that&#8217;s thrown at us and all the demands for us to fix what others have done (yes, I know, it&#8217;s not just others, me too). </p>
<p>I find that I can usually persuade myself at least and others occasionally, by bringing it right home; how can you lose by cleaning up your own backyard? We may not have a definitive answer for what is really going to happen and why, or what we can do to prevent it, but we can easily recognize that it can&#8217;t hurt us to do a little garbage separation, re-use a few things, make some compost.</p>
<p>I must say though that some of my English friends passed on the shocking revelation that in the UK people&#8217;s efforts at recycling often end up dumped anyway in dumps or foreign countries &#8211; too much to handle for the recyclers? Say it ain&#8217;t so!</p>
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		<title>By: Zen and the art of planetary maintenance II: Impossible love &#171; Greenfyre&#8217;s</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zen and the art of planetary maintenance II: Impossible love &#171; Greenfyre&#8217;s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 20:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] no qualifying &#8216;even so&#8217;; just &#8216;I vow to do it.&#8217; But as the Buddhist Master Ajahn Chah illustrated, it is not necessary that you believe it, just that you do [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] no qualifying &#8216;even so&#8217;; just &#8216;I vow to do it.&#8217; But as the Buddhist Master Ajahn Chah illustrated, it is not necessary that you believe it, just that you do [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://lateralaction.com/articles/climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-4235</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 16:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, actions speak louder than words. 

And I like the more lighthearted takes on Climate Change. Like this one from Dan Pink: http://www.danpink.com/archives/2009/10/how-do-you-motivate-healthy-green-behavior</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, actions speak louder than words. </p>
<p>And I like the more lighthearted takes on Climate Change. Like this one from Dan Pink: <a href="http://www.danpink.com/archives/2009/10/how-do-you-motivate-healthy-green-behavior" rel="nofollow">http://www.danpink.com/archives/2009/10/how-do-you-motivate-healthy-green-behavior</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://lateralaction.com/articles/climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-4166</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 15:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, that&#039;s a really great blog post... and it&#039;s very true.

To create real change we will each have to reach our own conclusions and ultimately make our own decisions. Having others&#039; opinions forced onto us won&#039;t help, only create more friction.

Perhaps the most effective way to influence is to - as Gandhi said - &#039;be the change&#039;. Don&#039;t just think about it or talk about it, as that won&#039;t really help - just create more friction.

When we ARE the change, however, others are INSPIRED by our actions, our results, and who we are. We are inspired to make the change.

I really admire and respect empowering and inspiring Blog Action Day posts, and while I also respect the doom and gloom posts surely - for the very reasons outlined in Mark&#039;s post above - they are not as effective as posts that uplift and inspire.

Another example of a positive Blog Action Day post I really enjoyed is at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.socksforhappypeople.com/blog/climate-change-makes-us-smile&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Socks for Happy People&lt;/a&gt;, where I was intrigued by their post: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.socksforhappypeople.com/blog/climate-change-makes-us-smile&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Climate Change Makes Us Smile!&lt;/a&gt;

It&#039;s definitely worth a read if you want to look at climate change from a different perspective. Or maybe it&#039;ll just annoy you, lol.

Tom :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, that&#8217;s a really great blog post&#8230; and it&#8217;s very true.</p>
<p>To create real change we will each have to reach our own conclusions and ultimately make our own decisions. Having others&#8217; opinions forced onto us won&#8217;t help, only create more friction.</p>
<p>Perhaps the most effective way to influence is to &#8211; as Gandhi said &#8211; &#8216;be the change&#8217;. Don&#8217;t just think about it or talk about it, as that won&#8217;t really help &#8211; just create more friction.</p>
<p>When we ARE the change, however, others are INSPIRED by our actions, our results, and who we are. We are inspired to make the change.</p>
<p>I really admire and respect empowering and inspiring Blog Action Day posts, and while I also respect the doom and gloom posts surely &#8211; for the very reasons outlined in Mark&#8217;s post above &#8211; they are not as effective as posts that uplift and inspire.</p>
<p>Another example of a positive Blog Action Day post I really enjoyed is at <a href="http://www.socksforhappypeople.com/blog/climate-change-makes-us-smile" rel="nofollow">Socks for Happy People</a>, where I was intrigued by their post: <a href="http://www.socksforhappypeople.com/blog/climate-change-makes-us-smile" rel="nofollow">Climate Change Makes Us Smile!</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s definitely worth a read if you want to look at climate change from a different perspective. Or maybe it&#8217;ll just annoy you, lol.</p>
<p>Tom <img src='http://lateralaction.com/base/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Janice Cartier</title>
		<link>http://lateralaction.com/articles/climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-4158</link>
		<dc:creator>Janice Cartier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,
Thanks. I appreciate that. I wish I  could shout it from a roof top. LOL.  Abstract does NOT work. Your image of that Marine swatting flies is sticking with me too. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,<br />
Thanks. I appreciate that. I wish I  could shout it from a roof top. LOL.  Abstract does NOT work. Your image of that Marine swatting flies is sticking with me too. <img src='http://lateralaction.com/base/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://lateralaction.com/articles/climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-4157</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 08:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Stephen  - &lt;blockquote&gt;Maybe the reason the vast majority of people don’t take the kind of action you want is because they aren’t convinced there is the kind of earth-shattering problem you see.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s my entire point. There&#039;s no &#039;maybe&#039; about it.

@ Janice  - Great post: &lt;a href=&quot;http://janicecartier.com/make-it-real/comment-page-1#comment-1745&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Abstract doesn&#039;t work&lt;/a&gt;.

@ John - I&#039;m not *sure* of anything. ;-)

@ Meredith - Good luck with your creative persuasion!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Stephen  &#8211;<br />
<blockquote>Maybe the reason the vast majority of people don’t take the kind of action you want is because they aren’t convinced there is the kind of earth-shattering problem you see.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s my entire point. There&#8217;s no &#8216;maybe&#8217; about it.</p>
<p>@ Janice  &#8211; Great post: <a href="http://janicecartier.com/make-it-real/comment-page-1#comment-1745" rel="nofollow">Abstract doesn&#8217;t work</a>.</p>
<p>@ John &#8211; I&#8217;m not *sure* of anything. <img src='http://lateralaction.com/base/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@ Meredith &#8211; Good luck with your creative persuasion!</p>
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		<title>By: Meredith</title>
		<link>http://lateralaction.com/articles/climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-4153</link>
		<dc:creator>Meredith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 04:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark-

You&#039;re blog post is amazing! Five months ago I bought a commercial property/old school house in serious need of rehabilitation- and we were just approached by a non profit sports company who works with 100s of kids in the area; they want to rehab the gymnasium and a good part of the attached warehouse for their use!

The problem: The previous owner left an unbelievable amount of trash here (already removed 7, 20 yard dumpsters and haven&#039;t tipped the iceberg!). I contacted the city to see if there was anything they could do to help us remove the garbage for free---but they pointed us to Allied Waste in St. Louis (who takes care of this town&#039;s waste), a for profit company with no connection to the city, the building, the history, or the people. I&#039;m meeting with a director in the company tomorrow- but was at a complete loss as to how I could even begin to convince him that helping us would be in his interest. Your post is a godsend! My brain is working overtime now.....


Meredith</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark-</p>
<p>You&#8217;re blog post is amazing! Five months ago I bought a commercial property/old school house in serious need of rehabilitation- and we were just approached by a non profit sports company who works with 100s of kids in the area; they want to rehab the gymnasium and a good part of the attached warehouse for their use!</p>
<p>The problem: The previous owner left an unbelievable amount of trash here (already removed 7, 20 yard dumpsters and haven&#8217;t tipped the iceberg!). I contacted the city to see if there was anything they could do to help us remove the garbage for free&#8212;but they pointed us to Allied Waste in St. Louis (who takes care of this town&#8217;s waste), a for profit company with no connection to the city, the building, the history, or the people. I&#8217;m meeting with a director in the company tomorrow- but was at a complete loss as to how I could even begin to convince him that helping us would be in his interest. Your post is a godsend! My brain is working overtime now&#8230;..</p>
<p>Meredith</p>
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		<title>By: John Hamilton Farr</title>
		<link>http://lateralaction.com/articles/climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-4150</link>
		<dc:creator>John Hamilton Farr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An excellent post. Far too many greenies &quot;preach down&quot; from a great height of moral superiority that only generates a backlash. I had real problems with a certain fellow because he tried to tell me that eating tuna fish would kill me. This same its-for-your-own-good mindset is what will take a perfectly good electric lighting option, incandescent bulbs, off the market shortly. This is just ludicrous.

And are you *sure* this post isn&#039;t secretly motivated by a conviction on what we all OUGHT to be doing? :-) That sucker is really hard to eradicate from individual consciousness. Activism is inherently suspect, as it turns out, no matter what the cause involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An excellent post. Far too many greenies &#8220;preach down&#8221; from a great height of moral superiority that only generates a backlash. I had real problems with a certain fellow because he tried to tell me that eating tuna fish would kill me. This same its-for-your-own-good mindset is what will take a perfectly good electric lighting option, incandescent bulbs, off the market shortly. This is just ludicrous.</p>
<p>And are you *sure* this post isn&#8217;t secretly motivated by a conviction on what we all OUGHT to be doing? <img src='http://lateralaction.com/base/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  That sucker is really hard to eradicate from individual consciousness. Activism is inherently suspect, as it turns out, no matter what the cause involved.</p>
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		<title>By: Janice Cartier</title>
		<link>http://lateralaction.com/articles/climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-4149</link>
		<dc:creator>Janice Cartier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,
I couldn&#039;t agree more.
Any large issue has to be made small and real and relevant. People do not respond to abstract issues in a real way unless it intersects where they live, some need they have, some inner desire, and crosses the plane of their everyday. Then it&#039;s real. Then it&#039;s actionable, if they are awake. So that&#039;s what  I wrote about too.
A mindset climate change.
Excellent post. Thank you for writing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,<br />
I couldn&#8217;t agree more.<br />
Any large issue has to be made small and real and relevant. People do not respond to abstract issues in a real way unless it intersects where they live, some need they have, some inner desire, and crosses the plane of their everyday. Then it&#8217;s real. Then it&#8217;s actionable, if they are awake. So that&#8217;s what  I wrote about too.<br />
A mindset climate change.<br />
Excellent post. Thank you for writing it.</p>
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